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    [Suggestion] Rename the "monopoly" bonus

    Essentially, I have a bit of a problem with getting four of any resource being called a "monopoly" bonus, because monopoly implies that only one person can have it. However, there are often 8 or more resources of each type in the galaxy, and therefore, you can easily have 2, 3, or even more races with a "monopoly" bonus for a given resource. I think a better term would be to call it an "Abundance" bonus, representing that you have hit some threshold of supply to give you a bonus. And heck, maybe you could even throw a true "monopoly" bonus for having the majority of the resource in the galaxy that would give you another level of bonuses. But I think as it is now, it's a bit confusing since it implies one thing but represents something else entirely.

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    As a suggestion to your suggestion, why not have the amount needed for a monopoly increase when you meet other races with the same resources?

    So you have 4, the that guys has 1 so the monopoly minimum goes up to 5.
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    Agreed - Monopoly is misleading. Abundance (or similar) makes much more sense.

    You basically reach a point where your supply of a resource exceeds your military needs by so much that you're forced/able to sell it off to the private market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Igncom1 View Post
    As a suggestion to your suggestion, why not have the amount needed for a monopoly increase when you meet other races with the same resources?

    So you have 4, the that guys has 1 so the monopoly minimum goes up to 5.
    That might work, but ultimately, by definition "monopoly" means that only one person can have it, so either there should be only one possible monopoly bonus per resource (requiring that whoever owns it has the majority shares in the galaxy), or it should be renamed to represent that you just have a lot, but not necessarily the most. I'm not sure what the true intention of the devs were in terms of the monopoly bonus, which is why I think maybe you could have both bonuses in play, the current one, and a new one that would have a higher threshold as more of the resource is utilized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palleon View Post
    That might work, but ultimately, by definition "monopoly" means that only one person can have it, so either there should be only one possible monopoly bonus per resource (requiring that whoever owns it has the majority shares in the galaxy), or it should be renamed to represent that you just have a lot, but not necessarily the most. I'm not sure what the true intention of the devs were in terms of the monopoly bonus, which is why I think maybe you could have both bonuses in play, the current one, and a new one that would have a higher threshold as more of the resource is utilized.
    Just FYI, that's a horizontal monopoly, and it's possible to own a vertical monopoly too. One also doesn't need to own ALL of a given resource in order to "hold a monopoly" on the market. Classically, yes. Modern, no. In modern law, a monopoly is characterized by an entity that has significant market power or the power to charge high prices.

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    Yes - these days a monopoly is mostly defined by a party (a corporation or organization) owning/controlling so much of a given product/resource that they can basically dictate prices and agreements. They are in control of the subject matter.

    Minority holders are basically slaves of the monopoly holders (something we strive very much to avoid in Europe - the monopolies that is)
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    It is misleading at best, and therefore I also believe it should be altered either in mechanic or name.
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    I also think the name is misleading, although it does suggest a potentially interesting mechanic that the game could use where a given strategic or luxury resource can only be found on a single planet. With a literal monopoly to whoever controls that planet, it could become a valuable diplomatic commodity and a reason to go to war.

    As for what to call the "I have four of this" bonus, what about a Saturation bonus? Or maybe just a Plentiful Supply bonus?

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    Yeah, even if monopoly somewhat works, I think abundance, like Mansen suggested, sounds best and it is impossible to misunderstand it.
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    How about we have a (bigger) monopoly bonus if you own over 50% of the total resource in the galaxy? E.G There are 20 hyperium and you own 11.

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    I thought this when I first started playing. Its not a true monopoly, an I'd love it if say, you only got a monopoly if you have like 50% of the galaxies reserves of that resource.
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    I have to vote that Abundance has a better fit than Monopoly.

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    I would like to see it go the other way. Stay monopoly bonus, but change it from 4 to 51% (majority, 50% +1. This would mean only 1 person could have the bonus). Perhaps we could even downsize the current bonus, possibly halve it, and call it an abundance bonus, and then add a higher monopoly bonus for majority control.

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    Why do we have to do one thing or the other? I would like to have an "Abundance"-Bonus and a special "Monopoly" trigger if you control a certain amount of the Resource (51%, 75%, 90% or 100% might all be appropriate).

    If that is too much hassle I would definitely prefer "Monopoly" to be renamed to "Abundance".

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